which, by the way, a lot of democrats like to see those big budget cuts on the pentagon. a lot of republicans would like to see those budget cuts on some domestic spending. so what's hanging over their heads right now is not as awful as the last couple of times we went around this. and so i think that's why john's right. that's why they're going to end up having this problem. >> how about pride? how about that has beening ov i their head? they work in a government that at least can do its most basic function and pass a budget? they work in a government and not a circus. how about pride in that? >> that would be good. you saw the article bob woodward had in "the washington post" this weekend. saying the president is in effect moving the goal post on the $85 billion. so when the president asks that a substitute for the sequester include not just spending cuts but also new revenue, that means taxes, he is moving the goal posts. his call for a balanced approach is reasonable, and he makes a strong case that those in the top income brackets could and should pay more. but that